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Old Jul 05, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07   #41
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Ok got a couple questions

1. What is the best way to start (saving the most time for the whole race)?
2. If I do have echo+SRB, should i even go in the big lake or go around?
3. Am i the only one never getting the box before the spiral hill?
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22   #42
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Did u ever take a look on Namkeys picture?

Reading ftw! Rest is already answered.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35   #43
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yes i did look at the pic but it seems like when i do ram first i loose time

BTW: nice 484
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46   #44
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As u can see on the picture... nobodys gonna take the box before the spiral bridge... and u always have to go through the water with the combo. There are 3 ways to start which were already explained here. Each start has his pros and contras, decide which one u prefer.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57   #45
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ok so i guess i am only hitting 2 boxes assuming i get echo and srb from them, and should that get me in top100 if i do rest right?
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46   #46
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If you:

1) Do one of the advertised starts
2) Get the combo
3) Follow the instructions on the map after that
4) Don't get knocked down or rubberband backwards

then you should make top 100.

Namkey's map is sub-optimal. You need a very clean run to make top 100 with that map. There's a reason that namkey got booted out of the top 100 during the first beetle weekend after he posted that map - the absolute top end score using power-ups exactly as described is very near 476,000. Alternate starts can improve on that by a couple of seconds. The rest of the additional time you can find is later in the course.

If you want to beat Yuri, you'll have to experiment with where you trigger power-ups in order to save time.

Yuri - did that last bit I told you get you the 484, or did you find the extra second with the method you described?
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #47
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Lol! Sry, Martin, I have to disappoint u!

I was testing ur method and its like i told u..its a wasting of ram, just use dash immediatly after cp2.

It was a "late-ram" run ... but ... ._. i ruined it... told ya i have to practise.
Ram was too early .... so i did only get like 55% speed these 2 secs.
Made 2 mistakes at all.

But it was a improved (u have to change ur playstyle if u get superstart) "red-superstart".

Well, there's still room for improvement... gogo 485
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53   #48
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Now, Yuri and Lain hold Ram until very, very late. I've never had success with this, but they seem to be getting to the boxes at the same time I do with the very late Dash, so to each his own.
Actually I alternate between ram at gate and dash before turn and between saving my ram for after the turn. If I start at the left side I usually prefer to ram out of the gate because I rarely seem to get a clean start if I save my ram there. Saving it can be faster though if everything goes well. I have seen 16 seconds at cp1, 29 at cp2 and 36 at water during one of my races (no superstart and no echo-srb that time though ). During my 482.5k time I started left so I rammed out of the gate, and I didn't even get echo-srb out of the first two boxes so actually didn't expect a great time. But ironically the left cow box gave me the lucky 2nd srb I needed for a nice time. All in all not a perfect race, I could see at least 2 seconds of improvement there.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55   #49
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lag got me...then I got stuck in the final stairs...was in 2nd...couldnt even finish....couldnt get out of the stair!
(oh yeah and rubberbanding is much more fun.....one time I was going the wrong way on the track when I popped back ....think my rollerbeetle career is over).
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 12:38 AM // 00:38   #50
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I'm always a fan of Rollerbeetle Racing, and usually get first or second in a race, but the lag and rubberbanding this year is so ridiculous I can't even complete a match.

aNet really needs to do something about this issue.

(No it's not my computer or internet connection because GW is the only game I ever get lag in)
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24   #51
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thanks for all the tips

my only problem besides the horrid lag (200 ping is green??) is the fact that resigning results in a dishonourable hex....that is retarded.

so far i'm getting 450+ but nothing higher than 464. then again i'm not great at racing games...make me a fps minigame anet
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24   #52
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lol.... Its fkn late and they're too stupid to fix their servers.... gn8 guys... its unplayable
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48   #53
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Anyone care to explain "ram dash ram" to me?
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 05:28 AM // 05:28   #54
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Lol! Sry, Martin, I have to disappoint u!
Hardly disappointed, just curious as noted. You had a theory, I had an alternate theory, and I haven't been around to test yours, so I have to rely on your experiences.

As noted, I haven't had much luck pulling the super start. The red beetle is innately faster simply due to racing lines and slope of the first hill; the relative ease of the super start from that box makes things sort of silly.

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Anyone care to explain "ram dash ram" to me?
This refers to:

Ram prior to gate 7 to get up the hill quickly
Dash at gate 7
Ram the last two seconds

Yuri is correct that this fails. There's a better way; if everything is done properly you'll never dip below 80-90% after the long water stretch, and that only happens for a second or two.

Another tip: it is VERY commonly the case that changing only one thing about your run will not improve your times. Often times you have to make more than one change, or reason back all the way to the point when an SRB is used, in order to optimize the run.

I detest the degradation in server quality as everyone and his aunt begins to log into Nine Rings over the weekend. I hate Nine Rings for that reason, and I just don't see why people have always been willing to pay money to make a skilless pink bar go up. Much less why they would choose to spend events making a skilless bar go up when they could make a skilled bar go up instead. (This was the case even before they added lockpicks.)

But to each his own, I suppose...

"Bridge Ate My Score" is such a great name, by the way. So many times when pinging 250+... /rage

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Old Jul 06, 2008, 06:07 AM // 06:07   #55
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Ive been consistently following the steps on the map and the best time I have reached even with srb is 462, what could i be doing wrong? My ping is fine and no rubber banding.
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 06:25 AM // 06:25   #56
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I have been racing at the Canthan New Year event, and also this one, but I'm about to give up ever making it to the list.
I just raced for 7 straight hours, and I got 1 superbeetle powerup, no echo, during the entire time... I slow down way too much on bridges, especially on the loopy one. I cannot make a higher score than 450k, even with following the guidelines.

What can I do?

I don't want to make the list for bragging rights, only to get the special something they give you at the end if you make it
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45   #57
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I have been racing at the Canthan New Year event, and also this one, but I'm about to give up ever making it to the list.
I just raced for 7 straight hours, and I got 1 superbeetle powerup, no echo, during the entire time... I slow down way too much on bridges, especially on the loopy one. I cannot make a higher score than 450k, even with following the guidelines.

What can I do?

I don't want to make the list for bragging rights, only to get the special something they give you at the end if you make it
They only give you the special gift at the Canthan New Year festival. Shame they don't give it at the Dragon Festival also.
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 06:58 AM // 06:58   #58
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Wow, you people are taking this thing way too seriously! Go outside and enjoy the weather or something not on a computer.
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Ram prior to gate 7 to get up the hill quickly
Dash at gate 7
Ram the last two seconds

Yuri is correct that this fails. There's a better way; if everything is done properly you'll never dip below 80-90% after the long water stretch, and that only happens for a second or two.
As I said before in this thread, I never dip below 80-90% either using the above method so I don't think it fails.
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 09:05 AM // 09:05   #60
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I think its only working pretty well if ure rly fast. It doesnt make any difference then.
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